Monday, October 22, 2012

My Conversation with a Muslim About Human Sexuality! LOL

Hey guys!

The following is a debate sparked off in a Facebook group about the following article:

This brother who is a Muslim,  responded with the following...


  • JML It's obvious that most (not all) gays & lesbians are produced by households that have absent fathers. The single parent woman dominates the kids. The male gives in and adopts her inner characteristics, the female competes with her dominance and seeks a...See More
  • JML typo - when she has kids
  • JML Others suffer from sexual and emotional abuse that occurs in dysfunctional households and social circles.
  • J.M.L. I don't usualy address politics when speaking to believers but in light of the upcoming election, I believe that compassionate conservatism in addressing the situation head on is more effective than pampering and pandering to the demographic which empowers immorality.
  • MM.D.M. Highly refined pig manure with artificial sweetener on it.
  • Hassan HartleyJML being gay does not mean you are feminine or want to be a woman, any more than being a lesbian means you want to be a man. The premise of your argument is deeply flawed and misinformed. Many gay and lesbian people have both parents i...See More
  • Hassan Hartley I would respectfully caution us, when having this discussion, not to allow our "feelings" about these people to cloud the central argument at hand..
  • JML I don't buy what you are selling Bro. You are trying to make evil fair seeming. Doesn't work on me.
  • JML Even Bible scriptur points out the desire to cross gender roles. And condemns it.
  • JML scripture
  • Hassan Hartley JML sexual orientation has NOTHING to do with cross gender roles, so your point fails. You are basing your analysis off stereotypes, not facts. This is a debate I am happy to have as a scholar.
  • Hassan Hartley You watch too much Tv where you see drag queens and mannish looking women...reality is not that way.
  • Hassan Hartley I am approaching this as a behavioral scientist, not a preacher or Imam....
  • JML I read the Holy books which are not inaccurate.
  • Hassan Hartley Hiding behind the Qur'an instead of using it to see into science is a hallmark of ignorance, sir. No disrespect.
  • JML I'm not a specialist in sexual behavior but I've dealt with a lot of personalities. Bring any homosexual man before me and I will expose the inappropriate femininity in his character and ultimately his social behavior. Vice versa with a woman. To be cl...See More
  • Aliyah Farooq Don't mean to but in, but are either of you gay?
  • JML I'm not Sister. I want to add that Male and Female - Man and Woman are spiritual beings. Gender characteristics are not limited to the physical body. God formulated the characteristics of man through divine instructions not just by physical formation.
  • Hassan Hartley JML that sort of unscientific braggadocio is more Mitt Romney-like than anything I find credible. Aliyah Farooq I have interviewed, literally thousands of persons in prison, on the street, and any and everywhere else on the topic of hum...See More
  • Hassan Hartley This is like talking to a brick wall with a bowtie on. I'm off to bed. If I'm still in this group in the morning, and you have a cogent argument to present, I will continue this discourse. Otherwise, As-Salaam- Alaikum to you all.
  • Sunday, October 21, 2012

    My Open Letter to Min.Louis Farrakhan Regarding Human Sexuality!


    Dear Minister Farrakhan,

               May this letter find you in the very best of health and spirit. I had the pleasure of listening to your lecture via webcast on October 21st, 2012 giving President Obama advice for his second term.You pivoted, at one point, into a riff about homosexuality, the power of the gay community, and how, in your words, "Homosexuality leads to the death of the   family". You mentioned that it was(paraphrased) a sick type of love that would "not allow you to want to reproduce yourself". This letter is an open rebuttal to those remarks, from myself, an author who has published a book on human sexuality among black men, and who is   one who loves you and is a former member of the Nation Of islam.

     I have a unique experience with your organization, as I was once a proud member of the FOI(Fruit Of Islam; the name given to the military training of men who belong to the nation Of Islam in North America) during the years of 1989 to 1994.You, Minister Farrakhan, gave me a partial scholarship to Tuskegee University, in large part because you saw potential in me for future greatness and productivity. As an openly same-gender loving man, here is my point-by-point response to your comments:

    1).Your remark that Homosexuality leads to the death of the family is,respectfully, one I find tremendous disagreement with. 70% of black women are having children out of wedlock, not because of black gay men, lesbian women,or transgendered persons, but because of a variety of other reasons, including a War on Drugs capturing 3.6 million black men and either incarcerating them, putting them on probation, parole, or some other form of court supervision. That  figure,3.6 million,is a number greater than the total number of slaves, male and female, in the South in 1850, just 10 years before the Civil War. Perhaps instead of using Bible and Qur'anic based riffs against homosexuality to get your crowds fired up, you could use those books to tackle that prison issue,, more than the small, marginally consequential prison ministry you have in the Nation Of Islam.

    This War on Drugs marginalizes MILLIONS of otherwise eligible black men from job opportunities, having a felony conviction. Without adequate employment, a vicious cycle of repeated incarceration occurs. Add to this,a trans-generational cycle of poverty, mis-education, and a warped view of manhood of many young brothers in so-called gangs that does not value collective responsibility on a sex-to-marriage level when babies are produced. All of these issues, Minister Farrakhan, (respectfully,sir), loom far larger than a small segment of the black community that is same-gender loving. To use us as scapegoats for the community's condition is disingenuous at best, and bizarre in the extreme in context of the above facts. Many black gay men and lesbian women face intense discrimination from their white gay counterparts as well as heterosexual blacks.WE ARE NOT THE DEATH OF THE BLACK FAMILY.

    2). Many, many black same-gender loving men are fathers, and take excellent care of their children. To suggest that we have no desire to reproduce is simply UNTRUE. We do not love the same gender to avoid child bearing or rearing, but simply because we are attracted to the same gender. We do not engage in relationships with the same gender out of resentment towards black women or black men who are heterosexual. Respectfully sir, we do not think that much of heterosexuals to hate or resent them to the point where we would "choose" homosexuality. This form of accusatory language is false,and repugnant. I find it ironic that, as a former member of the Nation Of Islam, I was a witness to several(nearly two DOZEN, actually) young brothers in Mosque Maryam who were secretly gay or bisexual, including young men who were close to you, Minister Farrakhan. I would have thought that exposure to them would have opened your eyes to the humanity of same-gender loving people, but I see that it has not. Saddening indeed.

    3).I fully understand that, as the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation Of Islam, your position on homosexuality is carved out for you through religious text and Nation Of Islam teachings. Please, sir, while articulating your position, have a more informed assessment of the humanity of my section of the black community and make fewer inaccurate statements about our motives and intentions. While you may claim not to be homophobic, your comments can easily be used by those who are to feed into a hateful climate that I do not think you wish to create. We are all around you, and have much to contribute to the liberation and salvation of the black community. Divisive rhetoric under the cover of "religious doctrine" is not productive, either. We are not "sissies"(a term you have used throughout the years to describe gay men), "punks"(another term used  that is derogatory to gays that you have used to suggest "real manhood" is heterosexual manhood) or "faggots"(a term you used passionately in a few speeches  from the 1980's to describe men who you suspected might be gay). We are same gender loving men, and we are not going anywhere. There has been no "growth" of homosexuality. There are just more and more of us that are no longer living in fear and silence...

    I am,
    Your Brother and Servant,

    Brother Hassan Hartley, CEO,Brother Hassan's Books

    P.S. Yes it was me who sent you my book, "When The Lights Go Out".  May Allah continue to bless you and the followers of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.





    Thursday, October 18, 2012


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